Be My Guest with Ina Garten

Ina: I’m Ina Garten, I love to invite interesting people to my house for good food, great conversation and lots of fun. 

Julianna: This is awesome 

VO: We’re having a blast at the bar, with incredible stories

Erin: It was like a total field of dreams moment

Rob: I was so nervous I couldn’t even say the word action 

Julianna: And I looked out and I thought I’m home. 

VO: There’s a whole lot of cooking 

Ina: Mmmm, warm chocolate chip cookies

Julianna: Ina Garten, she’s going to be my Sous chef, this is crazy

Ina: It smells so good. How about if I clean my mess here? 

Erin: Yeah, clean up your station Geeze!

John: Dulling bashers 

VO: Adventures in the Hamptons and maybe some cocktails 

All Guests: Cheers Ina!

Ina: How fabulous is that?

Willie: Best

Julianna & Erin: Invite 

All guests: Ever

VO: The incredible award-winning actor Julianna Margulies is someone I’ve long dreamed of meeting. 

Julianna: Ina Garten has invited me over to cook with her 

VO: She’s spending the day with me and we’re talking; love, life, careers and we’re drinking margaritas. 

Julianna: this is perfect 

VO: She’s showing me her signature Halibut with garlic and herb butter.

Julianna: I just taught Ina Garten how to make a dish

VO: Then we’re hitting the road for the beach

Ina: This could be the start of something great 

Julianna: I think it is the start of something great (laughing) 

Ina: I’ve admired Julianna Margulies for so long, she’s such a great actress but we’ve never actually met.  I can’t believe she’s coming today.  We’re gonna talk and make one of her recipes but I did hear that she likes a nice margarita so that’s what I’m making for her. So, I'm starting with a glass. I'm just gonna dip it in lime juice, and then in salt, coz that's the way to make a good margarita. Okay, that's one. While I work on the second glass let me tell you what I know about her so far.

VO: Julianna Margulies plays strong women on each of her hit television series; ER, The Good Wife, and now The Morning Show.  

Julianna: And by your own admission, you were toiling in small stations around the country 

Reese: Right 

Julianna: and to suddenly be given this opportunity, that must’ve seemed like it would never come 

VO: She’s won so many prestigious awards.  She’s also a mom, married to businessman Keith Liberthal, and is also the author of Sunshine Girl, her very candid best-selling memoir, which tells the story of her really unconventional childhood and her extraordinary career. She’s also written a children’s’ book and in her spare time, she’s a terrific cook. She loves having friends over, grilling, baking, using produce and herbs from her garden and setting beautiful tables.

Ina: I just can’t wait for her to get here. 

VO: She’s driving out to East Hampton, from Manhattan and after we’ve talked, we’re going to cook together

Julianna: I'm on my way to In’as and we are going to cook my halibut in herb butter recipe and yeah, I’m definitely a little bit nervous, I'm a little bit nervous, it’ll be fine right? Yeah.

Ina: Okay next the margaritas mix, so I'm going to start with three cups of ice, half a cup of freshly squeezed lime juice, two tablespoons of lemon juice. I like the combination of lemon and lime together, a full cup of orange liquor, I know it's a lot, but the ice actually kind of dilutes it, right in the blender and a cup of tequila, these are going to be really good, and just blend it. Julianna’s going to love these, wow, just made it. Let’s see if I can pour these without spilling them all over the place, I don’t want to waste a drop, did it, okay, into the fridge and they’ll be nice and cold when Julianna arrives. 

Julianna: We’re getting near now and um, it’s always so nice to come out to the Hamptons, I haven’t been here in a very long time, but it’s going to be cooking, conversation, fun, maybe a cocktail, cocktails would be nice right? I think it's going to be cocktails and I think it's going to be an incredible day, I’m very excited. Okay, we’re getting so close

Julianna: Thank you, oh my god, I can’t believe I'm here. (gasps) Look at that barn. Ina! Hi! 

Ina: I can’t believe your here (laughs) 

Julianna: I can’t believe I'm here either, oh my god

Ina: How exciting is this? 

Julianna: This is so amazing, hi 

Ina: I'm so happy to see you, thank you so much for coming

Julianna: Thank you for having me

Ina: I’ve made, I’ve made margaritas are you up for a margarita right away? 

Julianna: I love margaritas 

Ina: Come with me, I sort of knew that!

Julianna: oh my god you actually made me a margarita 

Ina: I really did, I hope they are good 

Julianna: Of course, they’re going to be good 

Ina: so, is, did you have a good trip? 

Julianna: it was good, it was easy and it’s a gorgeous day and I’m over the moon

Ina: (giggles) I’m so happy to see you 

Julianna: I’m so happy to see you

Ina: we have so much to talk about because our lives have criss-crossed each other in some, in some- so many ways, I can’t believe we’ve never met except through Instagram 

Julianna: How could we have not met 

Ina: Isn’t that funny - I don’t know 

Julianna: And by the way, do you know I’m not a social media person at all

Ina: yeah 

Julianna: I didn’t know what a DM was 

Ina: yeah, I know this, that moment where something shows up and you’re like what is that  

Julianna: I, yeah, and then suddenly it said Ina Garten and I li- I started shaking, I, you’re my guru 

Ina: (laughs) Awh. That’s really sweet.

Julianna: You’re my food guru. My go to dish has always been, since I taught myself how to cook was your chicken Marbella 

Ina: Oh, you’re kidding, oh my goodness,

Julianna:  That’s my go to 

Ina: Isn’t that the best? you put the whole thing together, throw it in the oven and forget about it 

Julianna: Yeah, but you can do it the night before 

Ina: yeah, that’s the best part

Julianna: So, if you have a huge

Ina: yeah 

Julianna: and you can do two of them, if you’re having 

Ina: 12 people 

Julianna: A lot of people 

Ina: Isn’t that great? 

Julianna: And then everyone thinks you’re a gourmet chef 

Ina: Come with me

Julianna: (gasps) I would love to 

Ina: We’re going to sit and talk

Julianna: cheers!

Ina: So happy to see you

Julianna: Oh my god 

Ina: How fun is this? 

Julianna: I’m so excited, I’m so excited

Ina: This is really great (laughing) 

Julianna: Thank you for, thank you for having me

Ina: I’m so glad you’re here

Julianna: Cheers 

Ina: You know when I was reading your book sunshine girl which I adore 

Julianna: Thankyou 

Ina: I was so struck by how many things that we have in common; I mean starting with crazy childhoods

Julianna: oh boy 

Ina: So, your parents split 

Julianna: yeah 

Ina: when you were a baby

Julianna: Yeah 

Ina: And your father had this glamorous, what seemed I’m sure to a young girl, glamourous life, he was an ad executive in New York, he lived on Park Avenue, he went to fancy restaurants

Julianna: Right 

Ina: You summered in the Hamptons 

Julianna: yeah 

Ina: and then you and your sisters would go back to your mom, and she had a completely different life. 

Julianna: Right 

Ina: Describe that 

Julianna: Yeah, my mother was very Bohemian, um, very much a woman who put her needs first 

Ina: Mmm hmm 

Julianna: yet loved us, was a real loving mother, but a, a narcissist on many levels. One person said to me, wow, your dad was a selfish guy and I thought what- because I was you know, I put him on this pedestal, I said what do you mean, he goes he went a moved to Paris and left you mother with three little girls when you were a year old in Spring Valley New York. 

Ina: mm 

Julianna: And I was like yeah but back then, so back in the early 70’s that’s what 

Ina: People did 

Julianna: That’s what people did 

Ina: Mmm Hmm 

Julianna: So, we moved to Paris, uh, when my father, after my father had lived there for a year, my mother moved to Paris 

Ina: Yeah, and you just went along 

Julianna: And um, so we went and so we lived on the left bank, my dad lived on the right bank and then my father moved to London, my mother moved us to England

Ina: So, this went on for a really long time, how do you think that kind of a life 

Julianna: (Exhales) 

Ina: Really? (Exhales & laughs)

Julianna; I’m exhausted juts thinking about it (laughs)

Ina: Well, you know first when did you think this isn’t normal, which is one of the things that happens to us as kids

Julianna: (Gasps) That’s a great question 

Ina: Is we think it's normal and then one day we go this isn’t normal

Julianna: yeah 

Ina: when did you, kind of, come to the realisation that wasn’t okay- wasn’t normal? 

Julianna: God, that’s such a good Question, Ina, because the truth of the matter is, I don’t know if I thought of it as normal or abnormal, I think I thought of it as something I had to get through. 
Ina: yeah, yeah 

Julianna: especially for me and the reason why I named the book sunshine girl 

Ina: mmm 

Julianna: is because my mother had named me that because I was always easy, she still, I just talked to her yesterday to tell her I was coming to see you

Ina: mmm

Julianna: and she was like- she said, that’s you Julianna, you just, the sunshine follows you where- and I was like ah 

Ina: (laughs)

Julianna: When you name someone sunshine girl it means

Ina: they can’t be anything else 

Julianna: you Can’t complain, right

Ina: Yeah, they have to be that all the time

Ina: So, after your childhood, you went to Sarah Lawrence, and you found something there that felt like home for the first time. Tell me about that? 

Julianna: It was one of those moments, um, you know I never really thought I’d be an actor, I went to schools that were very artistic so we were always doing plays and often times they would take the shiest person in the class to be the lead of the play, yeah 

Ina: Seriously 

Julianna: Yeah, yeah 

Ina: Wow

Julianna: To give them that sort of identity, to say you can do this 

Ina: Wow

Julianna: and I remember being furious 

Ina: were you that person? 

Julianna: NO 

Ina: (laughs) 

Julianna: Because I wasn’t that person, I remember in Kindergarten, they did, we did sleeping beauty and I wanted to be sleeping beauty and I was so excited cause I knew I was going to be sleeping beauty and of course, they picked the shiest girl to be sleeping beauty and I was a hedge, I had to rise, like literally I was in green and I was a hedge and had no lines 

Ina: Literally a hedge (laughs) 

Julianna: for my first role

Ina: Like a person hedge (laughing)

Julianna: I was a hedge, with all the other outspoken kids 

Ina: That’s in sleeping beauty 

Julianna: But I understand now as an adult, I’m like of course they had to try and-

Ina: But you were devastated 

Julianna: I was devastated, I was like ugh, a hedge, but, um, as, as you know, so plays were part of my life and also, we didn’t have TV, I wasn’t allowed to watch Television. 

Ina: ah, yeah, I wasn’t either 

Julianna: you weren’t? 

Ina: No 

Julianna: Why?

Ina: I, I don’t know, I though- my mom, I think my parents thought I should study not watch television 

Julianna: when I went to a friend’s house who and TV and had no restrictions on it 

Ina: Mmm Hmm

Julianna: I didn’t play with them, I was like 

Ina: yeah 

Julianna: Gilligan’s Island, are you kidding? 

Ina: That’s exactly 

Julianna: I mean I was glued 

Ina: Everything that was, exactly 

Julianna: It became 

Ina: An obsession 

Julianna: AN obsession 

Ina: Yeah, yeah

Julianna: So, I just think a little bit of everything is okay. 

Ina: yeah, I don’t remember having any toys when I was a kid 

Julianna: Mmmm Hmmm 

Ina: I think back, and I think how terrible is that? I mean maybe a few like educational things, but nothing just fun like a doll 

Julianna: I think everything in moderation is the way to live your life, but

Ina: yeah, do you know what Julia Childs used to say, everything in moderation including moderation

Julianna: Right, right 

Ina: That’s such a great line 

Julianna: Great line, it's a great line, but yeah so, I got to college and so I wanted to follow in the footsteps of my grandmother who was one of the first women to graduate from NYU law school in 1924 

Ina: yeah 

Julianna: and started the women’s bar association of the Bronx, because women in 1924 weren’t included, you couldn’t join the bar, the New York bar 

Ina: Wow, I don’t know why I’m surprised 

Julianna: you could take the, yeah right, you could take the bar exam 

Ina: Hello 

Julianna: But you couldn’t be a member 

Ina: yeah 

Julianna: And she just forged this incredible path for women and I thought I need to do something Nobel like that, I had a very heavy academic schedule my freshman year and I though well, I know theatre, I’ll do that as a theatre third, just to, be able to release some of the anxiety I’m going to have 

Ina: Isn’t that interesting 

Julianna: And I auditioned for a play I though oh this’d be fun if I get it and I, I got it and I just remember this moment and to this day it can make me tear up because, the lights came up and the audience was there, and I felt such a sense of belonging

Ina: Mmmm 

Julianna: And I looked out and I thought, I’m home 

Ina: To being home!

Julianna: Cheers, yeah there was, sorry, wow, you’re the new Barba Walters 

Ina: No (laughs) 

Julianna: You making people cry 

Ina: I think both of us are going to cry 

LAUGHTER 

Julianna: No

Ina: And so, you go to New York and you’re doing some things in New York 

Julianna: Yeah, so I did some commercials that kept me afloat, I was bartending, I was waitressing 

Ina: When you’re a young actor you do whatever you have to do, right 

Julianna: You do whatever you can do, I was 

Ina: And then you get a call from Steven Spielberg about a new show called, what was that called, yes, called ER 

Julianna: yes ER, well I wish I could tell you it was from Steven Spielberg. I get a call from my agent that Steven Spielberg is producing, and I went on the audition, and I booked the role, which was only to guest star in the pilot and then die.

Ina: yeah 

Julianna: And I died, or I didn’t, you never saw her die 

Ina: You never saw her die 

VO: And when ER was picked up, Julianna was back in the starring role of nurse Carol Hathaway 

Ina: And so, you went from being a struggling actress to being on the cover of News’s week 

Julianna: Right 

Ina: How does that change your life? How do you feel about that? 

Julianna: At the time I don’t think I acknowledged the change and I really think the first time that I realised, perhaps it was bigger than I knew was when I went back to England and I always was stopped by customs, because I, you know, I play, well I don’t play it well, but I always had my guitar and I had long hair and my leather jacket and I looked like a you know and they would always

Ina: (Laughing) Typical subversive

Julianna: Exactly, um and I was getting ready for them to, um pull me over and go through all my bags and um he, he looked at me and he said “Oh my god it Hathaway” 

Ina: (laughs) Isn’t that great? 

Julianna: And I went what?

Ina: IN another country 

Julianna: And I went wow, this has gone over seas, like I didn’t realise that it was everywhere 

Ina: Actually, I had a wonderful moment like that, Jeffery and I were coming into London, maybe 10 years ago and um, and the passport control guy looks at Jeffery’s passport and he looks up and he goes “Oh it’s you”

LAUGHTER 

Ina: And I thought Oh my god they’re going to arrest us and he goes “My wife always says to me, why can’t you be more like Jeffery?”

Julianna: Like Jeffrey! That is so funny, really? 

Ina: It was such a great moment

Julianna: I know, well, I was wondering about how Jeffery Gets treated in the public because I would think that most people are telling him how lucky he is because he always coming home to these incredible meals, right I mean, that’s not a bad way to live 

Ina: Exactly 

Julianna: Now I’m always like please just let me go through, good wife, do you know it? And they never do, they never, it was only that one time.

Ina: now you’ve been on ER for 6 years 

Julianna: yes 

Ina: and it's just been a wild runaway success and they offer you another two years and this is your first major left turn, so you decided what you really, what you missed most was a life 

Julianna: yeah 

Ina: And that was really important, and they offered you a phenomenal amount of money, I think it's pretty well known

Julianna: crazy, yeah 

Ina: It was like 27 million dollars for 2 years and you asked everybody for their advice and followed your heart which is what your father said, how much is enough

Julianna: Yeah, when’s enough, enough 

Ina: I mean, when’s enough, enough, which is great 

Ina: and how do you want to live your life 

Ina: Mmm hmm and you decided to move back to New York, and you did

Julianna: I did yeah 

Ina: And then there was this uproar about it which made you, did you question it or did you just say they don’t know what they’re talking about 

Julianna: I was devastated at first because I felt like I was being shamed 

Ina: yeah 

Julianna: and um I think they were assuming that I, that I thought I was going to be some huge movie star and didn’t need ER, meanwhile I was

Ina: ah yeah 

Julianna: I had lined up a year of work to go and do a play at Lincoln centre for $265 a week and a mini-series, it wasn’t that I thought I was going to be some- 

Ina: you chose your life over your work 

Julianna: I was choosing my life and there were moments where I had with, with people who had followed my career and followed my decision, young girls 

Ina: Mm hmm 

Julianna: That had tears in their eyes that Sais “your decision helped me make my decision”

Ina: Okay, now I’m going to cry, that’s really, really lovely and that’s more important 

Julianna: And I, that’s more important because it makes us stronger, it makes us better and it makes us live a truer life 

Ina: MM Hmm.

Ina: and so, you found something that made you feel like you were home; Cooking, what did that do for you? I know what it does for me 

Julianna: I mean, until 

Ina: Are you, did, did you know how to cook

Julianna: I'm going to get emotional because you were such a big part of my sort of, finding of my home. So-

Ina: it's like 

Julianna: No, it's true and, and, um, so I came back to New York, and I had a big break up with a guy who food had always been an issue for, like, he was very strict 

Ina: Mmm Hmm controlling 

Julianna: So, I never cooked because 

INA: Mmm Hmm 

Julianna: Whatever I cooked it was grilling me of what was in there and da da da and I don’t eat this and I, you know, he didn’t eat so many things and then one day he did eat them, I just couldn’t do it. When I finally left that relationship and I’d wake up at 5 in the morning, I would go downstairs and I thought, okay, what, what, what makes something smell good in the house, I needed to fill the house and I was by myself. 

Ina: and you wanted to make a home for yourself for the first time 

Julianna: I needed to make a home for myself for the first time, so I started baking. 

Ina: Yeah 

Julianna: That was the first thing I started doing because I thought it’ll make the house smells really good 

Ina: Mmm Hmm

Julianna: and I’m a, you know then I can bring it to friends’ houses, and I started baking and then it went from baking, I mean I got obsessed

Ina: (laughs) 

Julianna: And what happens is when you bake a lot your friends start coming over, showing up 

Ina: That’s exactly what happens 

Julianna: out of the blue, then I realised Oh I need to start cooking savoury dishes, like I, this is fun, baking’s fun, but we need to-

Ins: Yeah, but you can’t eat cookies all day

Julianna: You can’t eat cookies all day long and I on weekends started going to cooking classes 

Ina: Oh, you did

Julianna: Dinner parties became, my, my house was the epicentre for cooking, eating, friendships and then Uhm, I realised

Ina: That you were creating a community around yourself 

Julianna: Around myself 

Ina: Which is what you needed and it, it healed me

Ina: so, you dint need a, one relationship, you needed people around 

Julianna: a community 

Ina: A community 

Julianna: And food  

Ina: yeah 

Julianna: and cooking brought that community to me 

Ina: SO, then you moved back to New York 

Julianna: Yes

Ina: and you’re busy in New York and you’ve got this wonderful life and uh a friend calls and says come to my birthday party. 

Julianna: He said just come for a drink, so I said I'm going to come for a drink, but I’m going to leave, I'm going to come, hug you and leave, I have to learn all of my lines and he said great, so I walk in 

Ina: you’re hanging out at the bar 

Julianna: Hanging out at the bar and there’s this incredibly handsome tall, dark, blue-eyed man and he makes a B-line over towards me and he starts chit chatting and he got me a glass of champagne and I thought he was an actor because my friend was an agent and there was

Ina: All actors

Julianna: It was all actors yeah, so anyway I said your, your, I said your so lovely, but I don’t date actors and he said great I’m a lawyer, what else? So

Ina: (laughs) A profession you, you just have admired since your grandmother was lawyer

Julianna: right, right 

Ina: that’s wonderful

Julianna: and I, I really needed to go, and I stayed. I stayed for dinner, I stayed for cake and I, I hate to say we’ve never been apart. 

Ina: Isn’t that wonderful? 

Julianna: since that night

Ina: I’ll drink to that 

Julianna: Yeah 

Ina: because now you’re really home 

Julianna: Absolutely 

Ina: yeah, Mmmm 

Julianna:  By the way, this is perfect 

Ina: not bad 

Julianna: Oh my God 

Ina: And so, you, you were offered this unbelievable role with the Good wife and you I’m assuming you really wanted to do it and you had a 

Julianna: I really wanted it, I mean a lawyer, it was like the Best 

Ina: And a lawyer, you got to play a lawyer

Julianna: Yeah, yeah 

Ina: and what did you say to the producers 

Julianna: I said I love this role so much and I would love to do it, but if it’s not New York, I can’t do it

Ina: Mmmm Hmm 

Julianna: sorry 

Ina: and what did they say

Julianna: they said then we’ll make it in New York. 

Ina: Isn’t that just, I mean that’s 

Julianna: I mean yeah 

Ina: It’s You, you really, you took a chance 

Julianna: yeah 

Ina: It was something you really wanted, but you took a chance to have a life first and that’s really brave 

Julianna: I was willing to walk away 

Ina: You were willing to walk away and that’s brave, that’s really hard to do. 

Julianna: It’s hard to do on many levels, also because at the time I think I was 42 and I was a new Mommy and a new wife, and I had to take that risk because I had learned in life 

Ina: Mmm hmm. 

Julianna: That my happiness and my family’s happiness is more important than any career

Ina: Mmm hmm, Mmm hmm

Julianna: I miss Alicia, I miss playing her, I loved playing her. I’m not as smart as she is, I wish I was, I wish I could

Ina: Of course, you are. 

Julianna: well, you know 

Ina: You know she is 

Julianna: But like in a different way you know, but I, I think what I have that Alicia doesn’t and, and I said this to them, I said, I want to do a show about Alicia just in therapy 

Ina: (laughs) 

Julianna: Cause that girl’s never been on a couch and she needs to let go 

Ina: That’s the next series 

Julianna: yeah, yeah 

Ina: (Laughs) So tell me what your best day ever was? 

Julianna: So recently, we were upstate at our house, and I was cooking in the kitchen, listening to a podcast, it's a gorgeous fall day and my husband came in with this gorgeous glass a burgundy, a bottle he had been saving for a special occasion. It was no special holiday -

Ina: Yeah 

Julianna: It was just the perfect day after a gorgeous bike ride and this incredible view  

Ina: And it was an ordinary day but he really wanted to celebrate it and you did to 

Julianna: why aren’t we celebrating it? 

Ina: Isn’t that wonderful 

Julianna: yeah, we don’t have to wait to open a good bottle of wine

Ina: and just think of the chances you took, the risks you took. The walls you got around, just to get to an ordinary day where you just feel incredibly lucky 

Julianna: It’s my, my favourite times are the ordinary times

Ina: yeah, so don’t we need to cook together? 

Julianna: I think we do 

Ina: I think we’re going to make your halibut with herb butter, but first why don’t we go out to the garden and get some fresh herbs

Julianna: and your

Ina: I’ve got a lot of them 

Julianna: And you’re going to teach me how to make it a little better, this is my own recipe 

Ina: maybe a little bit 

Julianna: no, you’re going to make it better. Okay great, let’s go 

Ina: okay let’s go 

Ina: Okay, Okay here’s the garden

Julianna: Ohh

Ina: (laughs) SO, what herbs do we need 

Julianna: Ina’s herb garden! Okay so I usually just pick whatever is, looks good 

Ina: okay 

Julianna: So, Thyme, rosemary, sage, marjoram, whatever I have available 

Ina: Okay

Julianna: parsley 

Ina: I have a little, rose- rosemary 

Julianna: A little? 

Ina: yeah, that should work 

Julianna: do you think you have a little? (laughing)

INA: (laughing) Yeah, I think we can find some rosemary, Okay.

Julianna: That is gorgeous.

Ina: isn’t that amazing, ok so I’ll cli- you tell me what to clip and I’ll clip it how’s that?

Julianna: Okay, Oh yeah, no that’s plenty 

Ina: that’s plenty

Julianna: That’s plenty

Ina: Okay 

Julianna: here I’ll be your holder

Ina: Okay. So, this is what we refer to as the Luxembourg garden’s, jokingly as the Luxembourg gardens, because it's got linden trees like Luxembourg garden 

Julianna: yeah 

Ina: and a water feature 

Julianna: Going into the secret garden, this is like the 

Ina: secret garden 

Julianna: the entrance to the secret garden 

Ina: And this is my little walled garden

Julianna: OH, this is the secret garden (gasps)

Ina: Yeah, my little secret garden

Julianna: yeah

Ina: we’ve got lots of herbs here. So, you need parsley, right?

Julianna: So, we need parsley

Ina: do you like a lot, do need a lot?

Julianna: I like to use; I like to use flat leaf parsley yeah. Yeah, perfect

Ina: is that it? 

Julianna: that’s a nice bunch 

Ina: Great and What else?

Julianna: And thyme

Ina: Oh, Thyme I have thyme (laughs) I have lots of thyme

Julianna: So much time 

LAUGH

Julianna: Oh, that’s tarragon, let’s do some tarragon

Ina: You want tarragon? I love tarragon

Julianna: Yeah, I love tarragon 

Ina: It has that, that kind of anise flavour 

Julianna: Here I’ll hold you cut

Ina: Okay, perfect

Julianna:  See already a match made in heaven

Ina: We do everything together 

Julianna: Yeah, I love some chives 

Ina: how’s that 

Julianna: I’m a big chive person

Ina: Yeah, I like the, that oniony thing in chives right

Julianna: Yeah, beautiful

Ina: Okay, here, So shall we

Julianna: yeah, look at this herbs, your herb garden is much, much prettier than mine

Ina: So, what else do we have? 

Julianna: um and Sage 

Ina: and sage, we’ve got sage 

Julianna: Just a little bit of sage cos it’s pretty strong

Ina: sage goes- sage and um, oregano go a long way

Julianna: they go a long way

Ina: Right, and do you like my tomatoes? 

Julianna: yeah, let’s eat some 

Ina: little, let’s eat some tomatoes, I have a tomato

Julianna: It’s really good-looking tomato

Ina: Let’s see what can we do for tomatoes? (Laughs) 

Julianna: Fresh off the vine 

Ina: Fresh off the vine 

Julianna: look at those, look at those 

Ina: One for you 

Julianna: Oh yeah 

Ina: there’re totally organic… mmm 

Julianna: mmm 

Ina: how good is that? 

Julianna: Those really are amazing 

Ina: good 

Julianna: A glass of rosé and a chase lounge and I’m good to go

LAUGHING

Ina: Okay, let’s go cook

Julianna: Okay, let’s go cook

Ina: I can’t wait 

Julianna: I’m so excited, you’re going to make it so much better than mine 

Ina: NO, I’m not 

Julianna: I can’t wait to learn 

Ina: I’m sure it's fabulous

Julianna: Okay 

Ina; okay 

Julianna: Mmm, you know herbs is the whole reason I planted my garden, cause I just thought 

Ina: SO, do you like? 

Julianna: Fresh herbs there’s nothing like it, I don’t want to go to the supermarket 

Ina: I know

Julianna: to buy herbs 

Ina: I love just walking outside just to plant herbs and we both have barns 

Julianna: yours is a working barn 

Ina: yeah, but yours is a real barn 

Julianna: Mines a real, a real barn 

Ina: yeah, yeah 

Julianna: That one day, I’ll figure out what to do with

Ina: Oh, this is going to be so much cooking 

Julianna: I can’t wait, you’re going to make my dish so much better

Ina: Nah, I bet I won’t 

Julianna: I, I mean 

Ina: It’ll just be more fun 

Julianna: So, I even have the same hardware as you 

Ina: You do, really? 

Julianna: I have the same exact hardware as you 

Ina: How is that possible (Laughs) that’s great 

Julianna: Thank you Ina 

Ina: We’re like separated a birth 

Ina: Okay, let’s make your famous halibut with herb butter, put me to work 

Julianna: OH my god, Ina Garten, she’s gonna be my sue chef, this is crazy. Yes please 

Ina: Okay, which, which knife do you want?

Julianna: just chop everything up, you can use that

Ina: okay 

Julianna: this knife and just choop, chop, chop, chop, chop and I’ll start helping you for-

Ina: In any organization?

Julianna: it doesn’t matter 

Ina: any amount?

Julianna: cause it’s all going to go in the same- That’s the perfect amount 

Ina: Okay great

Julianna: we’re going to user the rest for some garnish at the end to make it look pretty 

Ina: Okay, we like pretty 

Julianna: so, it’ll get chopped eventually 

Julianna: I’m going to put the butter in my little bowl here

Ina: so, you’re making an herb butter that’s going to cook with the halibut, right? 

Julianna: it’s going to cook with the halibut, I put the butter in the, in the little bowl here, with the little, um salt and some pepper 

Ina: and pepper?  Your favourite pepper mill, am I right? 

Julianna: but there’s already pepper in here so I’m just going to use a pinch of that 

Ina: Okay great, I love that pepper mill

Julianna: Oh, uhm, so luckily this magically got done, this is garlic. I put garlic, butter salt 

Ina: and pepper 

Julianna: and I mix it all in to this beautiful, yummy unsalted butter, because you wanna, I feel like I want to control my own amount of salt 

Ina: Exactly 

Julianna: Thank you Ina

Ina: you’ve actually been paying attention

Julianna: I have been trying, yes 

um, okay so I mixed all that up. Look how well she’s chopping

Ina: did I do well? Did I do okay 

Julianna: It’s so good, just throw that in 

Ina: I’m nervous 

Julianna: You’re nervous, I mean honestly, okay and I’m going to help you chop up some too

Ina: okay some rosemary?

Julianna: I’m going to chop up some rosemary in there and

Ina: shall I, shall I show you one thing

Julianna:  yeah, let’s take it off

Ina: yeah, take it off the stem 

Julianna: I know, I know, I saw you do that. I was just trying to be quick. Normally I make my herb butter the night before 

Ina: Yeah 

Julianna: and then once it’s all um, mixed up in this bowl

Julianna: I take it all out and I put it on a piece of parchment paper, and I roll it up like um, like a log

Ina: yeah exactly 

Julianna: put it in the fridge and then you can just slice it and it comes out in these beautiful 

Ina: beautiful, I know 

Julianna: round slices and then you can 

Ina: looks so elegant 

Julianna: use it for steak, if you make it the next night,

Ina: yeah 

Julianna: I put it on top of the steak one- once I flip it, um which makes everything taste better- um I feel like this needs a little more, just a wee bit more salt… Okay 

Ina: Do you wanna, wanna a little chive? 

Julianna: uhm chives, yep, throw it all in there 

Ina: how much chive, all of it?

Julianna: all of it yeah

Ina: Okay 

Julianna: go for it 

Ina: good for you, good, that’s great 

Julianna: it’s really 

Ina: It’s so casual, I love it 

Julianna: Its casual, its easy, its fast, I don’t usually have someone of your stature helping me 

Ina: You don’t have a lot of herbs left over either? 

Julianna: Nope 

Ina: so, you just put in whatever you have? 

Julianna: You put in what you have, and then 

Ina: that’s it 

Julianna: Thyme 

Ina: Thyme, I’ve got thyme right here

Julianna: but that 

Ina: you have the most gorgeous garden and you just recently put it in, didn’t you? 

Julianna: I put it in 

Ina: Next to the barn?

Julianna: next to the barn 

Ina: its so beautiful 

Julianna: because I realized I really, I didn’t want to have to run to the market to get herbs 

Ina: yeah exactly

Julianna: I didn’t want to have to run to the market to get lettuce, you know and there it is and you don’t, it’s all organic

Ina: you just walk outside 

Juliana: and there’s no pesticides in there 

Ina: cut it off 

Julianna: yeah 

Ina: It’s just great, its fabulous 

Julianna: So that’s pretty much it, what, what I was hoping is that, so it’s beautiful as is but I bet you could add something that makes it a little, I don’t know

Ina: well, you know I’m always looking for something that gives every dish and edge

Julianna: Yeah 

Ina: like vinegar 

Julianna: oh

Ina: a little bit of vinegar just kind of brightens the flavours 

Julianna: yeah 

Ina: or, um, a little mustard, parmesan cheese, but for this you know what I would do is

Juliana: what?

Ina:  lemon zest, it would just brighten all the flavours 

Julianna: Right its gonna brighten- why didn’t I think of that, you can just grate that right in there

Ina: yeah exactly, shall I, do it, Shall I go for it? 

Julianna: yeah, grate it right in there 

Ina: Shall I go for it? oh, good okay 

Julianna: I mean 

Ina: and then we can use the lemon on the halibut if you want to 

Julianna: Right afterwards 

Ina: so, yeah 

Julianna: Yeah beautiful 

Ina: But it just gives it a brightness that I just think is really good 

Julianna: So, I have a question for you

Ina: okay 

Julianna: Normally and I don’t know if it’s the right thing so I’m asking you, normally I salt and pepper my fish before I put it-

Ina: yeah, always 

Julianna: always 

Ina: you’re absolutely right, always, when you bite into it, that’s the first thing you taste is the flavour 

Julianna: Right, and it brings the flavour out 

Ina: and, and, and there’s actually another thing, you can actually salt it when it comes home from the store and just re-wrap it and put it in and the salt kind of seeps into the flesh of the fish

Julianna: Oh my god

Ina: which makes such a difference, you can’t imagine, try it sometime

Julianna: yeah 

Ina: you can’t imagine 

Julianna: I’m going to do that 

Ina: yeah 

Julianna: wow the lessons you learn

Ina: I’m big on salt and pepper, it's the two things that everybody has in their house

Julianna: Right 

Ina: and then tend to under use 

Julianna: Now, um, then what I usually do is I put a little olive oil in the, in the pan, you know

Ina: okay yeah 

Julianna: maybe two tablespoons, but I never measure

Ina: yeah, you don’t have measure that

Julianna: because you can see it, when you get to be a pro like me, um and I heat it up, uh, let’s see 

Ina: here let me, I’ll do this

Julianna: yeah, yeah, do that, okay great 

Ina: okay

Julianna: and I like to get 

Ina: do you want it high or medium? 

Julianna: yeah, put it 

Ina: high, okay

Julianna: I like to put it on high

Ina: Okay 

Julianna: Because I like the first, I like to hear a nice ssss 

Ina: yeah 

Julianna: and it sort of gives a crispiness to it 

Ina: right 

Julianna: on one side 

Ina: and it keeps the moisture in 

Julianna: right 

Ina: Its sears the outside, yeah 

Julianna: so, I wait for that to go and then and while I’m doing it, I put my butter mix in my little saucepan and I’m gonna

Ina: don’t you love this I invite someone to come cook for me (laughs) what kind of an invitation is that?

Julianna: I mean, It absurd. I keep wondering I’m like is she looking at me and going why did she do it that way 

Ina: No, she’s not, she’s going, she’s doing it perfectly 

Julianna: and then Ina, I have a trick, but I want to know yours because I’m sure it’s better when you, make sure, how do you make sure the oil is absolutely hot and ready for the fish, oh I’m so glad 

Ina: Is that your trick? 

Julianna: Perfect that’s my trick and its ready 

Ina: and that works every time 

Julianna: and I, I’m a, I always wash my hands I like to place everything, if I can with my hands because I feel like-

Ina: yeah, because then you can feel it

Julianna: Exactly, cooking is a 

Ina: exactly, you know I used to, I used to cook with a friend of mine, Anna Pump, who had a specialty food store near here and I was always saying to her is this okay, is that okay, is this okay? And she would say to me, you know how to cook. I’m gonna say that to you, you know how to cook 

Julianna: Awh, you’re sweet, thank you

Ina: you really do 

Julianna: I want to turn this off, so it’s turned off because its, you know I don’t want it to get any more melted than that right? 

Ina: oh yeah exactly you just want it melted, oh that smells so good 

Julianna: doesn’t it and that

Ina: I wish you could smell it, it’s just amazing 

Julianna: they can’t smell it we should have 3D TV, it really smells 

Ina: Smellivision 

Juliana:  its perfect 

Ina: It’s perfect 

Julianna: and by the way I can smell the lemon

Ina: yeah

Julianna: thank you for doing that 

Ina: good oh good, so you, you’ve been cooking with Kieran your son right? Is he, How old is he 

Juliana: I have, so he’s 13 and I have this um, I just don’t want him to go out into the world without knowing how to cook 

Ina: yeah, that’s wonderful 

Julianna: I don’t want him to get to college and not know how to do laundry, not know how to cook himself a meal or make his bed

Ina: how to take care of himself 

Julianna: yeah, so we started baking

Ina: yeah 

Julianna: That, he loves baking, and we would do baking competitions together

Ina: ahaha really, it’s like the great British bake-off in your house 

Juliana: he loved watching that show, so we would do bake off and I’m a simple cook, I like, I like things in order, and I like to make it quickly and I like to get it going 

Ina: Yeah 

Julianna: he, he’s very intricate and he loves flavour so our first thing that we baked together were turn overs

Ina: Yeah 

Julianna: and he said mom were going to do a savoury and were gonna do a sweet 

Ina: wow

Julianna: and I thought oh god because of course I’m doing half, most of his work

Ina: yeah (laughs) 

Julianna:  and he was like I’m gonna make a marzipan turnover with an orange glaze 

Ina: Oh my god, wow, that was his first dish?

Julianna:  His first thing he made, so I had to learn how to make marzipan

Ina: marzipan for starters, yeah

Julianna:  which I was amazed, I mean it’s delicious, it’s crazy amounts of sugar 

Ina: yeah, yeah 

Julianna:  but it was so good and also pastry dough, I’d never actually 

Ina: you made the dough? 

Julianna: I made the dough 

Ina: oh wow, cause sometimes you can do it, by buying like some frozen puff pastry and cut it out and then do that too 

Julianna:  Yeah, I should’ve done that 

Ina: well, you can do both

Juliana:  Right 

Ina: it’s nice to know how to do both 

Julianna:  Right well he loves to bake so I said to him listen you’re headed towards 14, he’s, one night a week, you tell me what you wanna cook savoury wise and you’re going to be the chef for the night 

Ina: wow and he did it? 

Julianna:  well, well he’s going to, so he’s already decided his first, his first dish is going to be ramen noodle soup 

Ina: oh, that’s good, that’s great 

Julianna: I know, yeah, yeah 

Ina: because he’ll need to learn how to make it in college 

Julianna:  Exactly, which I’m sure he’ll buy the, you know, the cup and pour hot water over it, but he wants to make it from scratch 

Ina: yeah, that’s actually, that really good 

Julianna: I think that’s good 

Ina: yeah, that looks perfect 

Julianna: Around halfway up is when I flip it over

Ina: this smells great, look how fabulous this is 

Julianna: so um 

Ina: and the grill pan’s a good idea 

Julianna: The grill pan’s nice because you get that gorgeous look…

Ina: yeah exactly 

Julianna: And, and then it makes my um diners think that I’m professional

Ina: you are 

Julianna: in some way which, I’m not, but um, look how gorgeous that is? 

Ina: it’s gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous 

Julianna: and by the way, really nice halibut, okay so then what I do is, I turn it down just a wee bit and I pour over my herb butter, just on each piece like this

Ina: oh, how bad could that be? Oh my god 

Julianna: yeah, yeah, the more flavour the better 

Ina: how gorgeous is this?

Julianna: and then I’m gonna take a lid and I turned it off because it’s going to cook itself 

Ina: Oh, isn’t that interesting 

Julianna: And it sort of steams now 

Ina: yeah, so how long does it sit for? 

Juliana: Uh, three minutes and it’s done 

Ina: wow, oh my god, I am so making this for Jeffery, it’s so easy and delicious. 

Julianna: Oh my god, I just taught Ina Garten how to make a dish 

LAUGHING 

Julianna: I can’t believe I taught you how to make a dish, I’m so excited, I hope it tastes as good as it smells right now 

INA: How fun is this? 

Julianna: (Laughs) 

Ina: We’re finishing Julianna’s Halibut with herb butter, and it smells amazing, do I get to taste it? 

Julianna: Yes, yes, yes

Ina: Okay good. 

Julianna: we’re going to put it on a platter 

Ina: yeah 

Julianna: That’s the other thing if you’re having a dinner party, it looks 

Ina: yeah 

Julianna: Um, often times when it’s just me and my family I plate everything just so there’s it's, its

Ina: yeah, there’s three of you so yeah 

Julianna: yeah, it’s just the three of us, but you know I did, um, waitress for years so I’m very aware of how plates have to look 

Ina: and look how beautiful that looks

Julianna: Isn’t that gorgeous? you actually, it’s the simplicity of this dish is kind of what’s gorgeous about it 

Ina: yeah, I think, I like the simplicity, how about if we just do a little bit of parsley on the platter, 

Julianna: there you go and it’s so juicy

Ina: look how perfect that platter is for this, how’s that? Is that good? 

Julianna: that’s perfect 

Ina: Just simple 

Julianna: simple

Ina: You can over decorate things and it, you, you lose the food and that looks just, want to taste it? 

Julianna: Oh my god, it's so good

Ina: so good? Okay there are two forks here 

Julianna: It's really good 

Ina: One fork 

Julianna: Okay 

Ina: Two forks 

Ina: omg, this smells, you can’t imagine, I mean the flavour of the herbs and the chives and the, I wonder if you can taste the lemon 

Ina: mm, it’s delicious

Julianna: Its really good 

Ina: you know what interesting is your very aware of that kind of that herb and garlic and lemon thing, but it’s not like one thing doesn’t hit you

Julianna: right 

Ina: it’s all perfectly balanced 

Julianna: I think the herbs with the le-

Ina: Mmmm, mmm 

Julianna: Also adding the lemon, I think balanced out more than I even thought 

Ina: it kind of, oh really, oh good

Julianna: She’s having a second bite; I mean come on 

Ina: Excuse me 

Julianna: Come on, it is good

Ina: It’s so GOOD

Julianna: so easy, took no time at all 

Ina: Its fabulous 

Julianna: Really few ingredients 

Ina: and very little clean up 

Julianna: yeah, little clean up and you’re done 

Ina: Mmm, mmm, mm, so good, see you know how to cook

Julianna: thank you 

Ina:  You’re the best 

Julianna: thank you, you taught me 

Ina: Okay, so I know you used to spend the summer in East Hamptons and there’s one thing that I just love doing, wanna come do it with me? 

Julianna: Yes please 

Ina: I thought you would think it was fun, okay 

Julianna: Oh, what is it?

Ina: I’ll tell you when we get there, it’s a surprise 

Julianna: Okay, okay, okay, I’m so excited. Bye

Ina: come with me

Ina: We’re going for a mini ride to the beach

Julianna: how fun is this

Ina: Okay, are you Thelma or Loise? 

LAUGHING

Julianna:  I’ll be whatever you don’t want to be

Ina: okay here we go, fasten your seatbelts, literally 

Julianna: Look, this is what you need for a beach car

Ina: And the perfect day!

Julianna: you’re not scared, are you? I’m a very good driver 

Ina: I’m not scared, why would I be scared? 

Julianna: My father taught me to drive in East Hampton when I was 12

Ina: I love that

Julianna: Okay, here we go

Ina: Here we go, don’t run anybody over

Julianna: I’m going to run people over. This is so fun!

Ina: SO, what was it like in the summers in East Hampton

Julianna: you know, we never got in a car, we went on our bikes 

Ina: oh, you just walked everywhere? 

Julianna: we just were on our bikes 

Ina: Oh, you were on your bikes 

Julianna: Everywhere 

Ina; yeah 

Julianna: It was, you know into town, after dinner we would have, we would go to all the farm stands, get the corn 

Ina: isn’t that great? 

Julianna: Do the BBQ’s outside and then ride our bikes into town, and I remember the summer when we lived on Georgica Lane, um, the movie was Greece

Ina: really? 

Julianna: YOU remember with Olivia Newton John and –

Ina: Of-course and John Travolta 

Julianna: And John Travolta, yeah and, uh, I saw it 11 times 

Ina: No 

Julianna: I saw it 11 times 

Ina: (Laughs) That’s amazing 

Julianna: I was 12 

Ina: Isn’t that great?

Julianna: Oh my god this is so fun 

Ina: And this is baker house, which is 

Julianna: what is Baker house? 

Ina: it’s uh, it's an Inn, it's been many thins but it’s always been an Inn, it must’ve been somebodies house at one time, but I love the green and I, I love the, the cemetery 

Julianna: I know it’s beautiful and this hasn’t changed at all 

Ina: hasn’t changed at all, oh its historic 

Julianna: I mean the pond, still there 

Ina: and the Windmill, that’s the real deal 

Julianna: the sign when you’ve arrived, is this a – 

Ina: This is called the Maidstone arms, this is an Inn too

Julianna: Can you stay there? 

Ina: yeah, you can stay there, yeah

Julianna: Oh, you can 

Ina: Right, let’s talk about a party 

Julianna: yeah, let’s talk about – 

Ina: what’s your favourite party? 

Julianna: Uhm, a dinner party’s my favourite party 

Ina: yeah, me too 

Julianna: you know, any kind of party where you’re going in to sit around a table and, I think it's why I love cooking, honestly, I know that if I cook, they will come 

Ina: Everybody will show, nobody, nobody gets a phone call; “I love you, come to dinner” and they say “nah”

Julianna: Right

Ina: Everybody says yes

Julianna: Everyone gets excited about a dinner party, I mean it, it 

Ina: Well at your house 

Julianna: Well sure 

Ina: But still 

Julianna: but I get excited when someone invites me to a dinner party, I always say what can I bring? Right, that’s the first thing I say

Ina: Yeah, Right 

Julianna: Um, which is funny now because most people always say the side dish and you like oh, cause vegetables don’t travel well – I mean, 

Ina: is this the way you remember it? 

Julianna: this is the way I remember it, all these gorgeous hedges 

Ina: yeah, yeah 

Julianna: So, I would ride from Georgica Lane, I’d go around, probably up to this road and then go up to the beach and then I used to ride my bike, we’d be at the beach all day and then I’d ride my bike back home, change into my tennis outfit, then ride to the, my bike all the way to the tennis courts

Ina: On Montauk highway? 

Julianna: yeah, on Montauk highway, yes 

Ina: Almost in Wainscot, 

Julianna: Almost in Wainscot 

Ina: Wow, wow, look at this house, isn’t it gorgeous? 

Julianna: Do an hour tennis lesson, I know, look at the lawns  

Ina: Oh, just do gorgeous 

Julianna: and we, I remember the snack, um 

Ina: Yeah, the snack bar’s still there 

Julianna: the snack bar was there

Ina: It’s still there

Julianna: And we used to run across that hot, hot sand to get Ice-cream Sandwiches

Ina: Awh 

Julianna: And I was, I’m the youngest of three, so I was always the one; “Julianna, go and get the- “

Ina: Oh, they would send you- 

Julianna: Yeah, they would send me 

Ina: you were the Goffer, right? 

LAUGHING 

Ina: Here we’re at the beach

Julianna: Look at this

Ina: Look at this, oh my god it’s so beautiful, it never gets old does it? 

Julianna: I mean even, you know, it doesn’t matter what time of year 

Ina: Does it look like you remembered when you were a kid? 

Julianna: yeah, there’s just nothing like the, this ocean for me is 

Ina: And the smell 

Julianna: It’s where I learned to swim 

Ina: It’s The Smell 

Julianna: This is the beach where I learned to swim in the waves 

LAUGHING 

Ina: was that a good surprise? 

Julianna: that was a beautiful surprise, really, thank you. I feel like my dad’s here somewhere 

Ina: awh 

Julianna: he used to go into the ocean and just start swimming and swim and swim so far out that, he loved to swim, and I would stand there waiting for him, cause I was so sacred that he wouldn’t come back 

Ina: aawh, that he wouldn’t come back (laughs) 

Julianna: you know it was so far out, I would get nervous. I never saw the movie sh- jaws because I loved swimming in the ocean 

Ina: Yeah, you never want- ah, yeah 

Julianna: I didn’t want to be scared 

Ina: And it’s such a beautiful beach because there are no big hotels or high-rises, it’s just houses on the beach 

Julianna: Especially nice right now Ina when there’s no one here 

Ina: and you can smell it, I mean just the smell of it is wonderful. 

Julianna: beautiful 

Ina: Okay, you ready for a pop quiz? 

Julianna: yes

Ina: Okay 

Julianna: I’m game 

Ina: Okay, here’s the Pop quiz

Julianna: Okay 

Ina: Okay, what’s the movie you’ve seen the most? 

Julianna: Oh, the movie I’ve seen the most is probably the Big chill

Ina: Isn’t that a, fabulous movie 

Julianna: I love it so much 

Ina: It’s so wonderful and it's of the time. One food that you makes happy?

Julianna: It so hard to choose one, but I’m going to just say salmon

Ina: Isn’t that great (laughs) That’s good. 

Julianna: Salmon makes me happy 

Ina: What’s the best job you’ve ever had? 

Julianna: This one 

LAUGHTER 

Ina: Right answer 

Julianna: I mean, it's true, I’ve never had so much fun in my life and I get to eat on the job 

Ina: isn’t that great (Laughs). Worst job? We’ve all had one of those 

Julianna: yeah, the worst job I’ve ever had probably, um, probably was waitressing at the River Café on the deck as a cocktail waitress 

Ina: That’s hard work, in the summer, right? 

Julianna: in the summer, in the summer with, I had that suit on, the, everything, was polyester, it was just horrible 

Ina: Ohhh, horrible. What’s the best present you’ve ever gotten? 

Julianna: (Gasps) Oh my god, the best present I’ve ever gotten, awh, this is going to sound so corny

Ina: No 

Julianna: But it was my engagement ring, that was really special 

Ina: Isn’t that great? And the last question is actually from the famous interviewer James Lipton 

Julianna; YES 

Ina: If heaven exists, what would you like to hear God say when you arrive? 

Julianna: Oh, you’re gonna make me cry

Ina: Oh, I feel like I’m going to cry already 

Julianna: (Laughing) Um, you did good kid 

Ina: You did good kid, you really did 

LAUGHTER 

Julianna: OH! 

Ina: He’d be right

Julianna: Ina, ooo, shall we go in the ocean?

Ina: Yeah 

Julianna: really? 

Ina: no (laughs)

Julianna: No, do you think it’s cold? I actually wouldn’t mind, but it looks really cold 

Ina: It's probably warm but let’s do- yeah 

Julianna: This has been a dream come true for me, truly 

Ina: It’s been so wonderful and it’s just the start 

Julianna: this has been a joy 

Ina: It doesn’t get any better than this 

LAUGHING